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Oud 13 oktober 2009, 22:31
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Exclamation Onregelmatigheden in TS? (PTS Gaps, Continuity Breaks)

Tijdens wat testen met het programma TSPE (Transport Stream Packet Editor] en wat TS opnames krijg ik opeens enorm veel waarschuwingen/meldingen bij de volgende zenders: NL1, NL2, NL3, NET5 ,SBS6
Ook gaat het afspelen van de TS opnames bij deze zenders met een mediaspeler op de PC moeizamer dan normaal zo te zien.

Met het programma TSPE krijg ik de dan bij de betreffende zenders de onderstaande meldingen:

TSPE analyse SBS 6 - October 13 21 30 13.ts
Code:
TSPE Version 0.755 Scan of: L:\SBS 6 - October 13 21 30 13.ts
Scan performed on: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:57:02 GMT

PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0xA0BC8
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x113E54
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x184068
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x1F6A24
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x2686A8
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x2DB120
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x34C93C
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x3BDF24
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x430D48
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x4A16B4
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x51441C
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x5865C4
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x5F91B4
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x66AB48
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x6DB860
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x74E2D8
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x7C16DC
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x831600
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x8A2780
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x91428C
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x986E7C
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x9F80B8
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0xA69DF8
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0xADC1D4
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0xB4EC4C
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0xBBE880
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0xC2F074
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0xCA065C
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0xD11720
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0xD82F3C
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0xDF5CA4
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0xE6D95C
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0xEDCFB0
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0xF4DEFC
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0xFBF1F4
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x1030ACC
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x10A4B4C
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x111B664
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x1192C80
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x1204E28
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x1276298
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x12E37E0
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x13544F8
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x13C65E4
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x14362D4
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x14A8F80
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x151A044
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x1587B6C
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x15F8AB8
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x1667B2C
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x16D97B0
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x1749FA4
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x17BB124
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x182CE64
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x189DA04
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x1911794
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x19813C8
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x19F1BBC
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x1A61AE0
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x1AD2680
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x1B44F80
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x1BB72A0
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x1C28074
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x1C987AC
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x1D089C0
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x1D79B40
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x1DEA914
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x1E59988
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x1EC98AC
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x1F3A7F8
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x1FACA5C
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x201D250
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x208E258
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x2108830
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x21772C4
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x21E8098
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x225A2FC
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x22CDB68
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x2342340
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x23AFC34
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x241FD8C
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x24907B4
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x2503170
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x2576284
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x25E6B34
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x26571B0
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x26C7770
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x273927C
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x27A96C4
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x281A1A8
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x288E518
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x2901E40
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x2971BEC
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x29E1F78
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x2A529A0
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x2AC3540
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x2B34314
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x2BA531C
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x2C16558
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x2C881DC
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x2CF9128
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x2D6A7CC
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x2DDC21C
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x2E4DD28
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x2EBDE80
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x2F2E094
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x2F9FA28
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x300FAC4
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x3081A38
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x30F195C
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x3168BCC
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x31D5A78
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x3245478
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x32B6190
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x3326D30
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x339D78C
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x3409320
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x3477138
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x34E8664
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x355A984
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x35CC83C
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x363FDB8
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x36B1D2C
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x37243F8
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x3795634
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x3807B88
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x387BE3C
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x38EDB7C
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x395F510
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x39D1A64
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x3A4886C
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x3ABA958
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x3B2E91C
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x3B9E784
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x3C11B88
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x3C83170
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x3CF6CCC
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x3D67E4C
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x3DDB0D8
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x3E4B3A8
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x3EBCB08
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x3F2E49C
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x3FA0934
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x401193C
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x40853DC
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x40F9228
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x416B838
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x41DC1A4
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x424F084
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x42BF588
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x4331384
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x43A2504
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x44150F4
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x4486330
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x44F7EF8
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x4569134
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x45DB688
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x464F880
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x46BFB50
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x4731428
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x47A5040
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x4815ED0
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x4887E44
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x48FA510
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x496CBDC
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x49DDE18
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x4A4EE20
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x4ABF904
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x4B32438
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x4BA4DF4
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x4C148B0
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x4C85394
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x4CFA4F8
PTS gap of 0,4 seconds in PID 0x00dd at offset 0x4D69628

PID Tree:
PAT PID: 0x0000 Ver: 1 TS ID: 0x0013
  0x00DC: PMT Ver: 26 Program : 19003
    0x00DD: MPEG2 Video (ITU-T Rec. H.262 | ISO/IEC 13818-2 Video or ISO/IEC 11172-2 constrained parameter video stream)
    0x00DE: MPEG2 Audio (ISO/IEC 13818-3 Audio)
    0x00EA: DVB Teletext Stream


PID List:
PID: 00DD: MPEG2 Video (ITU-T Rec. H.262 | ISO/IEC 13818-2 Video or ISO/IEC 11172-2 constrained parameter video stream)
    MPEG2 Video: 720x576 @ 25 fps
PID: 00DE: MPEG2 Audio (ISO/IEC 13818-3 Audio)
PID: 00EA: DVB Teletext Stream
PID: 0000: PAT PID: 0x0000 Ver: 1 TS ID: 0x0013
PID: 00DC: PMT

Filter Info: 
Video Resolution from Codec: 720 x 576 @ 25.00 fps
Approximate System Bitrate: 743326830224516,00 Mbits/s
Approximate Duration: 00:01:23.52

Video Duration by PTS: 00:00:07.000
Filesize: 00,08GB   Average bitrate 88,69 Mbps

PID: 0x00DD: MPEG2 Video: 720x576 @ 25 fps
175 Total Video Frames found
2965 Total Audio Frames found

Continuity Errors: 0, Transport Error Indicator Errors: 0
Timestamp gaps: 174, PCR gaps: 0
Total number of separate discontinuous regions: 174

End Of Log.
Ter vergelijking een log van een opname zonder deze problemen.

TSPE analyse RTL 8 - October 13 21 32 32.ts
Citaat:
TSPE Version 0.755 Scan of: L:\RTL 8 - October 13 21 32 32.ts
Scan performed on: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:04:47 GMT


PID Tree:
PAT PID: 0x0000 Ver: 1 TS ID: 0x0006
0x0078: PMT Ver: 27 Program : 6004
0x0034: MPEG2 Video (ITU-T Rec. H.262 | ISO/IEC 13818-2 Video or ISO/IEC 11172-2 constrained parameter video stream)
0x0036: MPEG1 Audio (ISO/IEC 11172-3 Audio)
0x0086: DVB Teletext Stream


PID List:
PID: 0086: DVB Teletext Stream
PID: 0000: PAT PID: 0x0000 Ver: 1 TS ID: 0x0006
PID: 0078: PMT
PID: 0034: MPEG2 Video (ITU-T Rec. H.262 | ISO/IEC 13818-2 Video or ISO/IEC 11172-2 constrained parameter video stream)
MPEG2 Video: 720x576 @ 25 fps
PID: 0036: MPEG1 Audio (ISO/IEC 11172-3 Audio)
MPEG1 Audio Layer 2, 64Kbit/s @ 44100Hz


Video Duration by PTS: 00:02:38.640
Filesize: 00,15GB Average bitrate 08,00 Mbps

PID: 0x0034: MPEG2 Video: 720x576 @ 25 fps
PID: 0x0036: MPEG1 Audio Layer 2, 64Kbit/s @ 44100Hz
3966 Total Video Frames found
5599 Total Audio Frames found

Continuity Errors: 0, Transport Error Indicator Errors: 0
Timestamp gaps: 0, PCR gaps: 0
Total number of separate discontinuous regions: 0

End Of Log.
Hebben meer mensen problemen met deze zenders?
Misschien dat de DVB experts hier wat meer over kunnen vertellen?
Dit lijkt mij toch niet in orde zo?
  #2  
Oud 16 oktober 2009, 11:39
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Zijn deze PTS gap problemen nu eigenlijk ook weer verdwenen na de grote storing van gisterenavond?
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Oud 16 oktober 2009, 13:17
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Citaat:
Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door ArChie Bekijk bericht
Zijn deze PTS gap problemen nu eigenlijk ook weer verdwenen na de grote storing van gisterenavond?
Nee, deze onregelmatigheden zijn nog steeds aanwezig.
Ik heb echt niet alle zenders nagelopen maar in ieder geval zijn deze 'PTS Gaps' momenteel aanwezig op de volgende (publieke/commerciele) zenders:

NL1, NL2, NL3, NET5, RTL7, SBS6, TMF en Veronica.

Bij de zenders een, RTL4, RTL5, RTL8 en Rai Uno welke uit dezelfde TS komen als de bovenstaande zenders zie ik deze problemen dus niet?
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